(If I were interested in Tosh that way at all, maybe it would.)

There are differences, of course, but I don't know how fundamental they are and how much of them are just culture and how many are biological mandates. I read something over the weekend about how women are small but tough, in general, and it's an apt description. (It was a long rant about the treatment of women in popular culture, particularly the torture porn genre of horror movies, and the conclusion was that this sort of movie reveals a disturbing misogyny in current culture.)

~~Dean is *very* manly and he doesn't let anyone forget it.~~

[Private to Near]

Concerned about the opposite . . . explain, please?

I haven't gone into detail about how I spent my weekend. Things are . . . in flux. I'd rather not say more about it right now, until I know better where i stand.

[ooc: since the thread is still in play, la la la.]

(Well, it would be wrong to use your friend for an experience. You might consider someone else, though...)

I think it depends on the person. Culture aside, it's my personal belief that most men and women would be largely similar in their way of thinking and mental functioning. ...I can't say I've watched a lot of porn (particularly nothing of that sort), so I can't comment on that, but... Hm. I don't suppose I give it a lot of thought, generally...

~~Yes. I fully expect threats should he ever encounter this thread...~~

[Private to Ianto]

Just that it might have reminded him how much he enjoys being with women. And how much I'm not one, usually.

...I see. Good luck, and if all else fails, remember what I said to Lorne: blame the hormones if necessary.

[OOC: Heh. Right. Near'll expect a full report later. :P]

( . . . yeah, not so interested in general. I. Um. Prefer other methods.)

Torture porn is films like Saw and Hostel: movies that glorify violence for its own sake. I can't watch them: I know too much about how bodies work, I think, to find any kind of escapism in that sort of thing. This is how my favorite movie review site summed it up:

Torture Porn — Believe it or not, I like a good scary movie. I was a kid when I first saw Halloween on cable, and even edited down and filled with commercials, it scared the piss out of me. But it also got me hooked on the stuff: Really good, really suspenseful horror movies that trade more on terror and nerves than actual gore. Which is why I hate, hate, hate the misogynistic, gore-crazed, slice-and-dice, tie-me-up-and-cut-me kind of horror that’s sprung up in the past few years and is usually referred to as Torture Porn. (If anyone asks, I made up the term. Trust me.) The Saw series is an exercise in excrement-fueled pointlessness, the kind of stupid sadism that only appeals to the weird guy who sits in the corner of the high-school cafeteria, muttering to himself and organizing his Magic cards. Then there’s Wolf Creek, and Hostel — oh, Hostel, the stillborn offspring of abusive father Eli Roth — and even the recent Turistas. The whole sick, stupid subgenre trades genuine thrills for revolting images of mutilation and bondage, and I’m tired of the whole thing. Mainly because I like good movies, and these are the lowest form of crap you can find.

The pleasure in other people's pain disturbs me; the idea of watching torture--which is basically what those movies are about, physical and mental torture--as entertainment disturbs me; that the victims are primarily women disturbs me. I don't like to see anybody suffer needlessly in the name of entertainment, even if it is merely special effects. It's meant to provoke a visceral reaction--appeal the most base instincts we have. It's dreadful.

Er. Rant off. (Here's (http://www.pajiba.com/the-first-annual-pajiba-shit-list.htm) the link if you want to read the whole thing. It's mostly about the movie/pop culture trends the website publisher is sick of.)

[Private to Near]
Remember how we talked about loving a person, not a gender? I suspect Matt feels the same way. Just a gut feeling.

No, I'm going to take full responsibility for my actions. I don't want to hide behind anything.

[ooc: 0:-)]

(...Oh?)

...I can't say I've had a lot of experience with those, either, though they don't sound very pleasant. I don't particularly enjoy watching other people in pain, either, and I don't entirely understand people who do.

A fair rant. Don't worry about it; I quite agree.

[Private to Ianto]

He does. He's said that before. I know that, but... he's just very young, and I don't want him to feel as if there are things he's missed out on.

...Very noble. Just... be careful.

(Don't make me spell it out.)

[Private to Near]
If he's had experience with women but decided on you, I sincerely doubt he feels he's missed out on anything. There's a lot to be said in favor of trusting love.

I'm always careful. Don't worry about me.

(But it's fun to see you squirm~ :D)

[Private to Ianto]

That's what he says. I just... He seems to have been enjoying this a lot, and I don't want him to feel... deprived. It sounds silly, doesn't it...? I just want him happy and to feel... fulfilled, I suppose. I occasionally get... knotted up about these things. It doesn't last long, though, I'll be all right in a little while.

I think the point of friends is to worry about them, actually. I'd just hate to see you hurt.

(*sighs*

Okay.

I LIKE DICK.

Happy now?)

[Private to Near]
Aw, ickle Near . . . yes, you will be fine.

And I'll be fine, too. Thank you for worrying.

(I don't know about me being happy, but I think you'll be pleased to know that you successfully cause my to choke on my orange juice from laughing...)

[Private to Ianto]

I hope so. I don't know what I'll do when he goes to New York. I pity you all during those few days, I really do.

All right. And I'm here if you ever want to talk. Not necessarily always myself, but always here.

Well. That's one of those moments when the satisfaction of amusement outweighs the millstone of humiliation.

[Private to Near]
We'll keep you company. (And if you feel like making the trip to Cardiff you can sleep on my couch.

I know you are. I'll let you know if anything comes up, I will.

...Oh, don't worry, I think we're on an even keel regards that sort of thing right now... ~~I am going to murder Matt, I really am.~~

[Private to Ianto]

That's very kind of you, but the reason I have to stay home is that I can't leave because of work. I don't know what I'm going to do, rattling around in that massive house by myself... Still, at least I won't have to deal with... people by myself, so it'll be much better than being in a hotel. We'll have to arrange a visit at some point, though.

Just making sure you knew.

Aww, but it's cute. He loves you for your anatomy.

*ducks and runs*

There's not much else I could do or say to shock you all, is there.

[Private to Near]
I suppose work will keep you busy enough.

Yes, yes, do come. If you bring Matt I might even give you the bed because I'm that generous.

I do know, ickle Near.

Apparently. I can't say I mind much, though...

I am slowly progressing from "very easily surprised" to "utterly unshockable". I'd like to blame Matt, but I think in truth I have you lot to ~~thank~~ blame as well.

[Private to Ianto]

It will. I intend it to, at least. I'm worried about Matt, too-- he's not really... fond of being on his own. And in all the time we've been together, we've never been apart for more than a few hours. This is going to be... very difficult.

We'd never steal your bed, Ianto, but it's very generous of you to offer. Besides, if Matt were coming we'd probably get a room in a hotel. Obvious reasons. I'm sure you need your sleep, after all~

...I'm going to have to ban that word, aren't I...?

Happy to be of service in that area.

[Private to Near]
I'm sure he'll keep busy too. I know it's hard to be away from a loved one but that just makes getting back together so much better.

I feel like I should be playing violin music now. Ugh.

Oh, fine. I suppose a hotel room is probably the better course. ~~Besides, you never know who'll be wanting use of my bed . . .~~

Oh no, don't ban it. It's a term of endearment! Really!

Ah, you say that now, but the next stop is "shameless", which results in spamming your journal with pseudo foreplay/flirtation... ~~Oops, too late~~~

[Private to Ianto]

So I've heard. It definitely seemed to work for Dean and Sam. I still don't want to, though... (I'm eighteen; I'm allowed to act like a petulant child on occasion. I'm entitled.)

We'd hate to disturb you. :D ~~...I'm not asking. I am fighting the urge to ask. This is me, not asking. Really.~~

...I'll take your word for it. Now I'm going to have to come up with an equally 'endearing' term for you...

Shameless doesn't bother me, and I think the flirting is cute.

[Private to Near]
We'll let you pout. Or I will, anyway, I can't speak for anyone else.

That's very gracious of you. *smiles serenely*

As long as it's not 'teaboy' you can call me anything you like.

Dick who? D:

Should I have said 'I like Near's dick' instead? :P

...Matt!

Yes? :D

...

What~?

You're going to regret that~

>D

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