likesthecoat | [internet cafe] I'm resisting the italics of sarcasm

...I'm sure she's just interested in some experimenting. (...Not like that. ...Right?)

It is a good question, although I'd like to think I haven't changed that much... Have you, do you think?

( . . . all things considered . . . probably not.)

I know it's just the scientist in her. She's right about not getting an opportunity like this again, but it still makes me feel very odd.

I don't think I've changed much, but it's hard to be objective about myself.

(Good. I don't think you need any more complications, really, do you?)

I should probably be more curious about this myself, but it's made me a little uncomfortable and disinclined to pursue further lines of inquiry. I don't think I'd much like one of my friends poking and prodding at me, either, regardless of how good their intentions are.

Ditto-- maybe it'll be easier to see any differences when we read back over things once we're back to normal...?

(Oh, exactly. I love Tosh but not that way.)

There's been little poking and prodding, actually: it's been more, "How do you feel? What kind of dreams are you having? Do you think your mental processes are changing?" etc. etc.

Maybe it will, or maybe there aren't any differences to see. I don't feel like I'm being any kind of stereotypical girl--I'm just Ianto. Same as always.

(Right. Although... That would certainly be an experience, I'm sure....)

Emotional prodding is just as bad as the physical sometimes, especially when you're being asked about things you don't even want to think about.

You don't seem particularly different to me, although if you have changed, I probably have as well. I think most of the people here are relatively secure in themselves and their sexuality, and aren't male in the extreme, therefore being unlikely to experience a massive change. ~~I'd love to have seen Dean switched, I really would. Don't tell him I said that, though.~~

[Private to Ianto]

Honestly, if I were single I don't think I'd care at all. My only real concern in all of this is Matt and whether or not it will dredge up issues I'd prefer had stayed buried.

(I think that kind of experimentation is a little out of my ken, really.)

It's not so bad, though; in her shoes I'd probably be doing the same thing. I mean, if you ever really want to settle the issue of differences between the sexes, this is the way to do it.

Your secret is safe with me. *distracts Dean from your strikeouts*

[Private to Near]
I admit I don't know Matt well, but if he says he's okay with it, I say believe him.

I'm . . . a little braver, actually. Or more foolhardy. Hard to say at this juncture.

(Oh, I don't know. It might be fun. :D)

Absolutely. I think there's very little, myself, but... It would be very interesting to investigate.

~~Thanks~ He's just... very manly. And it would be interesting to see someone so male suddenly female. But I wouldn't wish this on him, really. I don't think he'd appreciate it very much...~~

[Private to Ianto]

I do believe him. It's just... I'm more concerned about the opposite, if anything.

...What makes you say that?

(If I were interested in Tosh that way at all, maybe it would.)

There are differences, of course, but I don't know how fundamental they are and how much of them are just culture and how many are biological mandates. I read something over the weekend about how women are small but tough, in general, and it's an apt description. (It was a long rant about the treatment of women in popular culture, particularly the torture porn genre of horror movies, and the conclusion was that this sort of movie reveals a disturbing misogyny in current culture.)

~~Dean is *very* manly and he doesn't let anyone forget it.~~

[Private to Near]

Concerned about the opposite . . . explain, please?

I haven't gone into detail about how I spent my weekend. Things are . . . in flux. I'd rather not say more about it right now, until I know better where i stand.

[ooc: since the thread is still in play, la la la.]

(Well, it would be wrong to use your friend for an experience. You might consider someone else, though...)

I think it depends on the person. Culture aside, it's my personal belief that most men and women would be largely similar in their way of thinking and mental functioning. ...I can't say I've watched a lot of porn (particularly nothing of that sort), so I can't comment on that, but... Hm. I don't suppose I give it a lot of thought, generally...

~~Yes. I fully expect threats should he ever encounter this thread...~~

[Private to Ianto]

Just that it might have reminded him how much he enjoys being with women. And how much I'm not one, usually.

...I see. Good luck, and if all else fails, remember what I said to Lorne: blame the hormones if necessary.

[OOC: Heh. Right. Near'll expect a full report later. :P]

( . . . yeah, not so interested in general. I. Um. Prefer other methods.)

Torture porn is films like Saw and Hostel: movies that glorify violence for its own sake. I can't watch them: I know too much about how bodies work, I think, to find any kind of escapism in that sort of thing. This is how my favorite movie review site summed it up:

Torture Porn — Believe it or not, I like a good scary movie. I was a kid when I first saw Halloween on cable, and even edited down and filled with commercials, it scared the piss out of me. But it also got me hooked on the stuff: Really good, really suspenseful horror movies that trade more on terror and nerves than actual gore. Which is why I hate, hate, hate the misogynistic, gore-crazed, slice-and-dice, tie-me-up-and-cut-me kind of horror that’s sprung up in the past few years and is usually referred to as Torture Porn. (If anyone asks, I made up the term. Trust me.) The Saw series is an exercise in excrement-fueled pointlessness, the kind of stupid sadism that only appeals to the weird guy who sits in the corner of the high-school cafeteria, muttering to himself and organizing his Magic cards. Then there’s Wolf Creek, and Hostel — oh, Hostel, the stillborn offspring of abusive father Eli Roth — and even the recent Turistas. The whole sick, stupid subgenre trades genuine thrills for revolting images of mutilation and bondage, and I’m tired of the whole thing. Mainly because I like good movies, and these are the lowest form of crap you can find.

The pleasure in other people's pain disturbs me; the idea of watching torture--which is basically what those movies are about, physical and mental torture--as entertainment disturbs me; that the victims are primarily women disturbs me. I don't like to see anybody suffer needlessly in the name of entertainment, even if it is merely special effects. It's meant to provoke a visceral reaction--appeal the most base instincts we have. It's dreadful.

Er. Rant off. (Here's (http://www.pajiba.com/the-first-annual-pajiba-shit-list.htm) the link if you want to read the whole thing. It's mostly about the movie/pop culture trends the website publisher is sick of.)

[Private to Near]
Remember how we talked about loving a person, not a gender? I suspect Matt feels the same way. Just a gut feeling.

No, I'm going to take full responsibility for my actions. I don't want to hide behind anything.

[ooc: 0:-)]

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